severetiredamage

your kung fu is no good here

2009-09-02 23:02:29 PDT

i just got a lecture on how boxing isn't a real martial art and it's so simple and anyone who takes boxing is getting ripped off by these "trainers" (he did fingers quotes around "trainers" because who do these guys think they're fooling exactly !)... from a kung fu guy.

he also mentioned how brazilian jiu jitsu is useless because "sure, you've got the armbar, but then what ???" and i was not hiding my incredulity at all-- jeez dude there's a lot of limbs to break, you know ? i tried to tell him that BJJ is positionally based and can be used to simply get on top of someone and wail on them like a pimp, but he was having none of it whatsoever.

"see i'm a striker, so i don't fuck around with all that grappling shit. it's just so stupid." i told him it goes both ways: i love grappling and boxing, and think kung fu is silly flashy nonsense that is useless in any kind of real confrontation, but hey you've just got to find the art that fits you as a person. he looked totally confused like he'd never heard anyone say anything bad about kung fu ever.

and in that confusion he sprung at me with the unexpected: he asked me to time his "blitz attack" ! i laughed and said sure ok ! even though i had no idea what a blitz attack was or how one times it. so he hands me a "clicker" (which is like a stopwatch thing, and every time you hit the button it adds a number to a rollover [like an odometer]), tells me to hit it every time he lands a punch, drops into a deep squat, and says, "you gotta get a real good horse stance for this," making me choke back laughter from so deep in my belly that it hurt my face and wonder if i was, indeed, being filmed from somewhere. he then hit the bag as fast as he could for 30 seconds, gets TOTALLY winded, and goes, "THAT'S speed. *pant pant pant gasp* seeing is *wheeze pant* believing, huh." and i was like, "welp, i saw it !"

then as i was hitting the bag he was yelling to me how to throw my punches "properly" and i was rolling my eyes so hard in response that my eye sockets were smoking, but he was totally oblivious ! he was actually advising me to drop my hand to my waist to generate more power ! i was like ok dude, sounds like a really great way to eat a counterpunch which is something i totally love to do so thanks for the sweet tips on how to get brutally fucking KO'd man !

that was when he started in with how boxing is stupid and not a real art. he said, "boxing is so simple. there's like, four punches, so what does that take to learn ? a week ? kung fu teaches you the tiny details that boxing misses. how you need to turn your hand all the way around to generate real power. how you need to breathe through your punches. it's like how the shaolin can break boards all over their body, can boxers do that ?"

"they're usually too busy bustin' up heads i think..." i said.

"that's the other thing. boxing is all punches, and it's all to the head. it's so closed-minded. now in kung fu you've got--"

i was really starting to get annoyed at this point so i figured, man fuck this guy. "dude straight up, i don't care about kung fu. at all. i think it's sloppy and ineffective. and the way you're talking about boxing, and grappling, it really sounds like you've got pre-conceived notions but don't actually have a clue about any of it."

so he says, "hey, i'm just calling it like i see it." he actually said that. that was his defense. and then he said, "everyone training (i was wearing a "bas rutten mma system" rash guard and at this time he gestured at it) "these styles" is just getting totally ripped off by their rip off trainers."

"look dude," i replied, "you're getting pretty insulting about my trainer and my art so you should probably think about what you're saying here because it could get taken the wrong way." and he was all confused and going "no man, no offense !" which of course is the only way to excuse being insulting.

finally it was ten o'clock and the gym was closing. i was taking off my gloves (he was sitting there the entire time yelling shit like "deep breaths !" and "there you go, hips !" even after i told him i didn't care about kung fu) and he says, "i mean obviously i wouldn't get in the ring with you because you've got a ton of power and really good movement and you would most likely knock me out, i just don't really think boxing is for me." which made me think both,
okay hey great i have no problem with your lack of desire to box and your love of kung fu ! that's awesome, different tastes appeal to different people and all that ! why the fuck wasn't that your approach to this conversation the whole time,
but then also
if you wouldn't get in the ring with me because you think i would put you to sleep, isn't that admitting the total failure of your martial art in both 1. providing you with the technique necessary for self-protection, and 2. instilling confidence in yourself ??

but i just said, "ahhh, i don't spar that hard."



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Jason

You could have told him you used to train under Terry Tate and then tackled him and been all, "WOO WOO!! WOO WOO!!"

03 September 2009 - 10:03:03 (PST)


riley

"you can't be blitz attackin' *air punches* up in here son ! whoooOOOOO !"

03 September 2009 - 10:34:14 (PST)


Fiona

I had to stop reading for a little while after he asked you to time his "blitz attack" because I was laughing so hard. And then when I recovered, it was right into the "real good horse stance" and that's about the funniest saddest funniest thing I've ever read. Holy fuck dude what the fuck. Can you hook him up with Pumpkin Lady (By the Clock)?

I also love when someone is being tremendously insulting, nothing but insulting, even, and is then shocked and even a bit hurt when you're all, "That's very insulting." The "...no offense!" disclaimer kills me.

04 September 2009 - 16:57:37 (PST)


riley

yeah roy and i were laughing about that when i told him about it last night. "hey no offense man you know, no offense, but you're a fucking faggot and i hope your dog steps on something sharp. no offense." it's so retarded, but it goes hand-in-hand with the "just calling it like i see it" mentality so it wasn't a big surprise. dude also said, when i told him he was being insulting, "hey i'm just giving advice, one martial artist to another." go horse-stance on a pine cone.

i for one look forward to the day when we speak only in cliches and catch-phrases; frankly i'm sometimes amazed we're not all the way there yet, but i suppose it is what it is.

05 September 2009 - 12:19:45 (PST)


Fiona

Hold up hold up/freshprinceofbelair: I forgot to ask, how would dropping your hand to your waist generate more power? Valid concern about eating a counterpunch aside, if you drop the fist, wouldn't that also give the punch a longer distance to travel? Or am I a total n00b with a rip off trainer?

Haha, "I just call it like it is" guy, I love him. Closely related to "I'm sorry you took it that way" guy, in my experience.

Also, I've had "Buffalo Stance" in my head since reading this, but I secretly love that song, so I forgive that guy for that at least.

05 September 2009 - 23:10:46 (PST)


riley

if you create a wider arc with your punch it has a greater distance to accelerate and therefore will hit the target with a greater speed, which will require a greater force be acted upon it by the target stopping it. the only problem, as you've suggested, is that the extra power you generate takes time, and when you phone in your punchy intentions from last week (and are, incidentally, also in a stationary deep horse stance), they become incredibly easy to dodge/counter.

there's a fight on that nogueira/couture card where chris leben is fighting, and he telegraphs his punches like no one else ever. he's like a video game character charging up a super punch, it's ridiculous. his punches might as well have a parade in front of them.

06 September 2009 - 18:09:45 (PST)


Bill

Scorpion's uppercut fatality. That fucker started from the floor.
But a human should definately have some kind of gaurd up.

10 September 2009 - 23:16:59 (PST)


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